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  1. ANIKHTE

    ANIKHTE User

    I think if the company real want the game to be alive, needs to focus in new players. You can not expect the same old players to keep playing and paying to support the game. For what ever reason the people will stop and try a new game. A game to last long must appeal to the new players to replace the old ones. So far the company only looked for the old players and completely ignored the new ones. The problem is so intense now that practically a new player can not play the game. Usual game time for a new play 1-2 days. Until he goes Byrades and there is the end of the story.

    1) the pvp system is insane
    while there is a pvp ranking you limit pvp according to the PVE???? ranking
    with the artificial limiting of the pve level you have extremely strong players that have all the decks, powers, and rest of improvements on their ships and if few cases full bombastic and full seals. A new player with a war brigantine and 10 pounders has already a hard time to kill a new player with piranha and 10 pounders imagine what happens when they meet these players.
    The problem is for what ever reason this particular players consider fun to sink the players again and again and again and practically they can do nothing. they can not farm they can not even finish the missions to move to next zone.

    so how it can be solved immediately and without much code rewriting
    simple limit the pvp with the pvp ranking

    2) battlegrounds
    throwing the new players in the same battleground with the big players while you have some limitations of damage to get coins you practically punish the new players not being able to win 1 coin in the battleground. when anansi finish in 1 min an average the new player that his ship has not full speed will not even make it to the other side, and not having an idiot player sunk him while he tries to move. check the ranking for people having 5 6 wins and 0 coins

    apart from that problem the weaker you are meaning the newer you are the less chances you have to even enter in the battleground but you get the message battleground full which is a polite way to say no battleground for you and after midnight even medium strong players can not enter in battlegrounds.

    the algorithm needs to be rewritten
    easy solution
    not enough people to make battleground when you do not enter the battleground it still counts as a victory and participation for the mission and you get 3 coins. since this effect the newer and weaker players thats the way to go

    also it will make it possible for all the players to actual finish the missions and collect the coins even if they play bad times

    3) pvp ranking well it needs to change because now a new players will never make ti to be 8 star so that will make him stop playing faster

    there are many solutions suggested to this problem
    with 1 easy to go reset of pvp points in seasons of 2 months
    sent all players to 100k points and we start again for the top 100

    that way even new players will be able to join and play for the pvp ranking
    you can keep an overall pvp points ranking just for historical reasons
    but the pvp ranking will be based on the season pvp ranking.

    4) destroyer and blood moon deck
    THE STUPIEST IDEA IN THE GAME
    that 2 items made possible to fix the arena and destroy the game
    for destroyer it should raise the cost to 1million diamonds
    and you will need to have 200 victories in 1x1 2x2 and 3x3 in the same season to unlock it
    you have the time you have the diamonds you get the ship plain and simple

    blood moon deck also need to be sold at 1 million diamonds for every that afford to have it
    the company wants to sell diamonds and people being able to buy the deck thats the way to make money. now they sell 13 decks per year for what 20 million diamonds???
    make it free to buy and sell 1000 in eu4 alone

    the same applies to the destroyer with 54 destroyers in a year there simple are not destroyer to be given, meaning the game finish before the people get it and many do not even try because simple they will not get it. it is not a matter of trying effort its pure maths
    6000 people playing in eu4 at the peak with 54 ships per year that means 120 years for all to get the ship. so people finish the game and never try to get it and the whole destroyer race with the pushing not 1 arena season was clean has simple destroyed the game and drive away people not away from pirate storm but from big point games in general.
    not only bigpoint not make money from people trying to win destroyer loose them as players to any other game.
     
  2. sasacar98

    sasacar98 User

    Very good ideas especially 4th. I will also add that in the first 12 seas there should be better reward from npc-s(more diamonds) and that buff "guild letter 50" MUST be removed from game in order to let the newbies the chance(the players keep low lvl and get more diamonds and pvp). The importance of new players is also that old players get bored if they dont have to play with anyone else and that leads to more and more bored peple who play less and lead to game end.Think about it.....
     
  3. Corb8

    Corb8 User

    I think this is ideas is very good,but this ideas not possible,becouse some people don't like lose the control of the game,first is necessary clear up this peoples.
     
  4. Since I'm a old player I can't really see the benefit for me in this idea, alltho I guess if I were new to the game, your idea would appeal a bit more to me.

    You have good points but if you really want to make this idea to work and also benefit us "the older players" you gotta think bigger bigger BIGGER! You really have to digg in to the game and reconstruct every tiny little bit of it. You can't just point out a few things here and there and think that the developers are going to listen.

    Nice thought tho, polish your idea and please be realistic. Adios amigo.
     
  5. ANIKHTE

    ANIKHTE User

    old players will stop playing
    it does not matter if new content is added in piratestorm or not
    look at world of warcraft man old players never played all of the game
    they played a bit and stop
    some of them played stopped then played again after months or year

    a company that will try to rely on old players is a game that is going to die
    a game to be alive needs NEW PLAYERS to be able to play the game and replace the old players that stop

    we had a new battleground ursus
    i did not see old players that stopped the game to start playing again

    first the game needs to be appealing to new players so we can have a number of players that can keep the game alive
    now when a player reaches byrades zone 7 is when he stops the game
    so thats in the first day or second game of playing

    lets try to have this game ALIVE
    and then we can talk what the company can put to have the old players interested

    and by the way the point 3 is both new players and old players
    reseting the pvp to 100k every month or 2 that will spicy things up
    now the old players are using the good old days of the game to have the same unchangeable top 100
    when eu4 had 6000 different pvp accounts on the daily and it was possible to make 20k pvp points
    its a very different story of the 600 accounts we have now in daily and even lower to 500 some days
     
  6. slammer

    slammer User

    for pvp rankings there could be items to unlock on a monthly/bi-monthly basis with its own ranking ,without having to fiddle with the overal historical rankings.
     
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  7. ANIKHTE

    ANIKHTE User

    historical ranking lol
    there people that stopped playing 2 years and there are still top 100
    the historical ranking was made when there was possible to do 20 30k pvp points per day
    now its hard to do 5k

    of course lets keep something stupid and something people won win an unfair advantage
    either you had started the game in the first 4 motnhs and be in top 100
    or you will never be top 100
    yes lets keep this stupid monument of you just join the game a bit too late
     
  8. Panthera

    Panthera User

    I completely agree on your new ideas, Anikhte ;)
    And i could bet the players who won't agree on these are the same "old players" who win pvp, dow and battleground for so long time that the other "new" or even "old players" have nothing to do anymore in that game and are getting bored more and more ;)
     
  9. ANIKHTE

    ANIKHTE User

    the game needs to reflect the players that are playing it now
    not something that happened in the past
    now top 100 is haunted with ghost
    same people that hate history in school complain about the historical ranking???
    which offers what in the game exactly??
    scare new players off and make them stop playing

    thats what this haunted score does, with the other problem in the game, just makes new players run so far away from piratestorm that they surpass light speed

    the ranking needs to reflect the game as it is now
    active people active ranking

    there was a post 2 years ago of 20 friends starting the game, in a week 3 were still playing and one post it here, the simple fact the game is just unplayable for new players. the company refuse to listen the new players and only favors the old players again and again, the only thing that offered the old players is the slow death of the game. with no new players joining people just stop playing for what ever reason, and the number is getting critical and in the end the support only the old players will close the game.
     
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  10. slammer

    slammer User

    pvp ranking is not so important the orca isnt a strong ship and even with a mighty battle deck on it still not better then a dow or glad.
    so you want all this change of ranking for what reason. so new players can have there name listed somewhere, well there is a daily ranking and a monthly ranking for people who needs to see their name on a leaderboard.

    But there could be rewards for daily and monthly rankings with that i agree

    and to prove the point that the leaderboard does change i have an orca but am ranked 466 so i went from top 10 to 466 when i stopped playing pvp.

    you want to be in overal rankings top 100 top 10 or number 1 you need to put in the hours thats with all games.

    even you change everything to a new way that you want the players at the top will be the players that share their account, how can you win if there are 3 or 4 players playing 1 account and the boat is grinding 20 hrs a day. you cannot
     
  11. ANIKHTE

    ANIKHTE User

    the top 100 in eu4 is haunted for 2 years now
    so what more proof you want
    and of course we have infamous that are 400 or 500 rank but why?? because they played thaa game from day 1 in the server and they do not play 2 years now and was kick out in top 100 in the first 4 months

    why defend something that offers destruction to the game
    if pvp ranking is reset then more people will play for the ranking
    now no one cares because noone can enter top 100

    and if i am so wrong start playing annd go top 100 form your 450 ranking now
    and post me back when you are top 100 until then your comments will be hypocritic
    and do not try i was i do not want it again
    lets say you are a new player rank 450 sp go gogogoog
    prove me wrong enter top 100 if it is not haunted
     
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  12. Anikhte---idea number two is right on. I am hardly a sloop or brig but some of these BGs go so incredibly fast I get no coins, not because I didnt participate, but because the system said I didn't. Hello? Even as fast as the BG went, I nail five ships and two assists and I'm not participating. Stole the flag and got sunk repeatedly, but I'm not participating. Destroyed towers but I'm still not participating.

    Best thing for this game is if BP makes a rule that a player has to participate for rewards, make flippin good and sure the system is actually set to read true stats. Some of the BGs I just stopped playing because of this--I was going though ammo but getting absolutely nothing back.

    Oh and you are right on that new players need to be brought into this game. Without them the game WILL die, no matter how many old timers are playing now, you can't keep the game playing if the only opponents you have are NPCs when you log in and that is exactly what has happened on the US1 server. It's dying and euro1 is slipping too.

    If BP just put a few bucks into advertisng the game--even on social media like Facebook as a log in platform. It's a really good game and with a guild to help a player can come up very quickly. A guild can protect you against the chain sinking creeps as well--they dish it out but don't like being chain sunk by others.

    What I'd really like to see is the ability for a player to gift diamonds and gold that they purchase or earn to another player in their guild--it would help newbies. Kabam does this in some of their games in one form or another and it works really well.

    If I had that capability I'd put up bounties for proof of sinking certain unsavory charactors in other guilds. Some of them would be worth diamonds, some would be worth gold and a couple of real stinkers would be worth dirty socks :)
     
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2016
  13. *sauce*

    *sauce* User

    Allowing guilds to donate gold and diamonds is probably not the best solution as it will just end up with more pricier auctions making it even harder for newer players, and with diamonds, there is no need to say anymore...

    An hourly auction similar to Dark Orbit and Seafight would be a better idea to help new players since prices will be reduced as there 24 chances per day for players to earn their wanted item, or if Big Point were to put up more items in the auction such as 2 sets of 5 x 18 pounders etc, so newer players get a better chance to bid in the auction.
     
  14. As an OLDER player, there are some good suggestions here......The game does need some improvments and major tweeks with the pvp and event systems.
    Still firmly believe that guilds (players) should be able to have a guild communal chest for putting unused /numerous obsolete items (cannons, harpoon laucnchers) for guild members to acquire and use.
    If not, then some form of trade-in system......turn in 100 10lb cannons and get 1000 steel cannonballs or something.
    Turn in 25 peacemakers and get 1000 lightning blade harpoons......
    Be able to "MELT DOWN" unused cannons for cannon balls........
    Something other than carrying around 1000-2000 10lb or 18 lb cannons.

    For players at level 40 and above tweek the diver to NOT pickup 10lb cannons........at this level they are unused.

    Also, be able to trade in unused workshop items / minerals and metals. For something useful.

    Coins for event participation, other than showing up and remaining in corner, should be given to all players, especially new player of lower levels.
     
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  15. I still think that the ability to put up a bounty would liven things up a bit. Paid in gold or diamonds--or even advanced cannon or harps.
     
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